Delighted to chat with Debbie Williams of StoryTelling Podcast, a great storyteller herself… I loved how she just let the interview unfold. I joined the conversation as one of the authors of A Line in the Sand—on a topic close to the book’s heart.

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Miles Spencer is a curious guy from Pittsburgh who’s always strayed far from home. He trekked 1,100 miles across the deserts of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria, an extraordinary journey that became A Line in the Sand, an Amazon bestseller in the Middle East.

But beyond adventure, he’s also spent decades in the business world building and selling three digital media companies, mentoring tech founders, and even hosting MoneyHunt on PBS.

Today, we’ll be diving into that journey, what drove him to take on such an extreme challenge, the lessons he learned along the way, and how the experience shaped his perspective on risk, resilience, and adventure.